Combatants YARR and TUF traded hostilities against training alliances today as the YARR/TUF war took an ugly turn. TUF and YARR shared sparse details about the turn of events. The first piece of intel came from TUF’s viperone in a message entitled, “YARR attacks a training alliance.”
The message only contained the following battle report:
From: System
Subject: FW: Failed defense by squirrel’s forces at [777|-1671] in Pawanallpa under attack by PublicRelations’s forces from xx Bilingual Dwarf
Received: 09 Jun 2016 07:52
Original Message:
Two opposing forces clash against each other.
Cavalry comes into its own when able to strike hostile forces at will, and from unexpected directions – and nowhere is this more feasible than on open plains. Lightly armoured spear units, however, prefer terrain where there’s some cover available.
Fighting defensively on open plains, cavalry draws strength from the ability to form and reform their lines of engagement depending on the direction of battle, and it is here where cavalry excels.
| Attackers: | Unit: | Quantity: | Casualties: | Survivors: |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Troops: |  Packsmen |
720 | 171 | 549 |
| Commander: Runeriders Bilingual 1 | Runerider |
1 | Damaged for 23, 377 health remains. | |
| Troops: | Runeriders |
5095 | 1207 | 3888 |
| Commander: Runerider | Runerider |
1 | Damaged for 23, 377 health remains. | |
| Troops: | Runeriders |
60 | 14 | 46 |
| Defenders: | Unit: | Quantity: | Casualties: | Survivors: |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Commander: Nutty Ned |  Charioteer |
1 | Damaged for 150, 0 health remains. | |
| Troops: | Charioteers |
5000 | 5000 | 0 |
Commander Nutty Ned narrowly avoided a fatal blow, and lives to fight another day.
The Times noted that the player squirrel is part of Hellfire [Hell], a self-described training alliance: “We are a newly formed Training Alliance since 2014.”
In what appears to be a near-simultaneous move, TUF declared war on YARR’s training alliance The Rum Runners [RUM]:
[09 Jun 07:52]<System> ** News flash: The Unfettered [TUF] declares war on Rum Runners [RUM] Hostilities may begin immediately…
RUM is clearly a training alliance for YARR, and several players in YARR have used it as a sanctuary alliance to avoid the war. The alliance is composed of many small and/or seemingly weak accounts that would make for soft TUF targets.
It us unknown what relationship Hell has with TUF, but it is not know to be the alliance’s official training alliance.
because the battle and war declaration appear to have taken place within the same minute, it is not known which event came first, but considering the sequence of messages to the Times, TUF likely declared war in sympathy to Hell for its member being attacked by YARR forces.
No word yet from PublicRelations on the motive behind the attack.
The Illyriad Times 
You are full of shit, RUM is not a training alliance and as soon as I declared they kicked out the players that moved from YARR to RUM that had run and hid there after attacking us, in your own war score card you have sam o dell that broke the siege karl had he was booted after we declared.
Get you fucken facts straight and quit making your friends look better.
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Aga is correct in that RUM is not a training alliance. It is a completely peaceful crafting and trading alliance. I was not aware that Sam had been involved in defending a Yarr! town before moving to RUM. He has left RUM of his own volition and was not kicked. I have no idea what other players Aga is referring to.
It seems that Aga does not want the wishes of Gwendalynn (who was given white peace when she left TUF) and of Croaker who followed her to Aesir and then abandoned a day later to be respected?
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Hi Curm (alias Mac Soith…alias….XYZ). i think we shall stick to the real facts… no games anymore and no hiding for our RUM friends…. enchante
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Aian, I was replying on behalf of RUM, so did so as Mac. No deception intended as I believed it was already well known. I do not have an XYZ or any other aliases.
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You all provided the illy times the siege break report to get your fucking points on the war card
didnt you? So dont play the I didnt know BS.
Enjoy your war card score and shut up!!!
The real war has no points but it does have a last man standing and I intend to be the one standing over your cold carcasses when this is over!
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We know you will be the last one standing from TUF as you have no regard for your alliance and have made it repeatedly clear. You were given multiple opportunities over several weeks to handle our differences one on one and you told us you’d rather lose your whole alliance (your words, yes or no?)
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Apparently Aga forgot to mention that the siege that Sam broke (the opening siege of the war) was Karl sieging an account of a son of TUF’s co-leader who at the time was a respected player in Yarr!.
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Who gives a fuck?
Your alliance leader declared on us you dumb ass!!
We target reds if they are family members then that is a bonus!
All players in an alliance at war are fair targets if you want farmville go on facebook and STFU!!!
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Guess no one knows Curmudgeon is Mac Soith?????
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I responded to AianNick with regards that point above. Curm and Mac Soith are my two separate accounts. Mac has never been involved in this or any other war and I would hope standard Illy convention of not targeting an alt just because the owner is known will continue to be respected.
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Oh look at us, we are hiding, we are running, we are so afraid of Aga and Aian and Demdigs and Gwendalynn and Croaker, oh wait….
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…what happened to “YARR! Is afraid of one woman”?
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I am right here bitch come get me 😀
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what a retarded stratagem tuf, it wont make yarr call it quits. think harder, im sure you can smelly cats 😛
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oh my yes keep talking shit here and in GC it will not change the facts
Fact We got declared on
Fact We did not target a training alliance’s troops
Fact we dont suck like you all do!!
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Aga, settle petal.
Yes, you did get declared on FACT!
Yes, we killed a siege on a TUF terra spot right beside you to avoid you exodusing again when we next siege you. FACT!
We have mails going back to February and March between you and the so called training alliance that no-one has ever graduated from where HELL leadership agreed to attack what are now Yarr! members and you would then dogpile. FACT!
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lalalalala
Suck it bitch!!
You all talk about war and farmville and make fun of everyone that doesnt agree with the way you like to play supposedly you want to war but when war comes knocking on your door you cry like little whinny bitches that you are and thats another fact!!!
I dont care for my alliance? Then why have most people only left when I asked them to leave?
Almost every single TUF member has stood by me and my actions throughout this war.
Fact I asked gwen to leave Fact I asked croaker to leave cause I couldnt support em anymore properly they were both willing to stick it out, looking at your alliance all I see is rats jumping ship.
So take your cheap ass trash talk and shove it where the sun dont shine!!
All of our members are in it to the end unless I say otherwise YOU CANNOT CLAIM THE SAME!
That says exactly what sort of an alliance leader I am and my fucking potty mouth when talking to bitches like you has nothing to do with it.
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I can’t seem to find the rats jumping ship, any more than I can find the war deserters you mentioned earlier. Are you prepared to acknowledge that we have no interest in pursuing people such as Gwen and Croaker that leave the war? Is that a good or bad thing?
TUF alliance page currently says ” Oh wow We are being bullied we are all non combatants!!!! waaa waaa waaa !!!
Grow a Pair!! You wanted WAR you GOT IT!!!”
If this is in reference to RUM members ALL stating that they want no combat and since none of them wanted a war, your point is a little lost.
Feel free to curse, potty mouth and hurl abuse, OR come back with a sensible retort.
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this is awesome! thanks 🙂
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Just to clear up a point that in the above tirades seems to be missed… For some reason a YARR player decided to attack a player from HELL. I can only guess, but probably because YARR’s former Deathmonger players still want their landclaim in Pawa and intend to attack players already in that area( unlike most “peaceful” land claim statements that current residents will not be ejected from the area.
The only “relationship” between TUF and HELL is one of friendship, weve fought some training Battles against them and have a good relationship. For anyone to assume any closer relationship is a mistake, I don’t even think any TUF players have an ALT account in HELL. Just friends, not in bed together. SO… since YARR decided to attack HELL, TUF decided to declare on RUM after an exchange of emails stating that very consequence ” if any YARR troops attack HELL we will declare on RUM” is what I recall reading in the mails that were shared with all TUF members.
Oh, and that may be one of the points being missed here… TUF members are routinely provided with forwards of important political mail. WE aren’t dupes, or uninformed, we stand with our leaders because we are friends and this is a game.
Just my two cents worth, which is more than 2 cents more valuable than the fertilizer spread by YARR.
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Ken, I was reminded earlier today what a good guy you are, and I respect both you and the person who pointed it it out to me. My word (for what little it is likely to be worth) is that no-one outside TUF ever saw a if…. then declare on rum mail. I guarantee (again for what it may be worth) that I never saw it either as Curm or Mac
The politically relevant mail that I have seen (as have all the major alliances) has all involved Aga attempting to persuade them that he is the poor hard done by victim of bullies, at the same time that he is the braggard in GC.
The major BL alliances all have copies of igm’s of him attempting to do deals with every single other one. Almost all are obsessively about newb ringing players who have raised his pulserate a little.
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ps Dear TUF, the next time you decide to mimic a genuine alliance stating that they are all non-combatants, remember to leave someone in charge and not give everyone superuser by default. If we had spies, which we don’t, we’d probably be too busy laughing to press the bye bye alliance button
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Maybe when you posted this they hadn’t but right now, there is a hierarchy. Check the names- if everyone had the same rank then the member list should be alphabetical. They have just changed all the rank names to non-combatant.
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roflmao!!!!
Keep talking out your ass all I know is that you lost 50% of your alliances population in under 24 hours.
lalalalala
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The way I see it is this:
RUM has many war runners in it. Many sent attacks, then changed their minds that they didn’t want to war and went to RUM. If they didn’t want war then they shouldn’t have sent any attacks! One member, SamODell, broke a TUF siege and is also on the run AGAIN. Maybe if they might have contacted us we might have let it slide. But they just ran. Like cowards.
When croaker left he contacted YARR, and I think gwen did the same (don’t quote me on that).
So what do you do with an alliance mostly full of war runners? Declare on them!
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Tbh I dont see Tuf’s need to declare on rum; it cant be more obvious that your looking for ugly and messed up ways to win a war while somehow being prideful about.
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it^
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How is a war declaration worse than attacking someone?
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Wait, Hell got attacked by PR so TUF declared on RUM. Why are TUF being painted as the bad guys here? They haven’t even attacked anyone in RUM yet.
Also, can I point out that SIN has exactly the same policy for war runners.
Finally, at no point on RUM’s alliance summary do they say that that they are a training alliance. They seem to be closely linked to Yarr! but are not a training alliance.
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there’s more than meets the eye. ironically, its like reading a newspaper or listening to the news.
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Like reading a newspaper in real life in that there are hidden biases which prevent stories from being told in a way which accurately depicts true events?
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I don’t normally fall into these “debates” on here but at this point I feel I need to, I keep hearing people talk about Rum being full of war runners and sending attacks yet the only one that keeps getting mentioned Sam. I can assure you all that most of the players in Rum where there before the war began. Yes there was a small number of players that came over after the war began that were peaceful traders and didn’t have the desire for war. Yes, allowing SamOdell to come Rum, was a mistake that I claim full responsibility for. oops my bad, he was so active he broke one siege at the very beginning. However to say that Rum is full of war runners is a mistake on Tuf’s part. I personally kicked out most of the alliance members that that have left since the war declaration for various reasons ranging from inactivity to simply not having the capacity to fight.I see no point in allowing peaceful players to get attacked because of another player’s actions in a separate alliance. I would suggest that before calling players cowards, maybe make sure that your statements are correct. Just because player has no desire to fight doesn’t make them cowards. Some folks are brave enough to walk a different path. It would seem to me that this might have been a plan of Tuf all along since there was IGM’s sent to your whole alliance stating “if any YARR troops attack HELL we will declare on RUM”. Maybe using a “training alliance” to place terraforms for a war account during a war should be frowned on as well. That’s just my two cents, which admittedly is worth nothing.
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“I would suggest that before calling players cowards, maybe make sure that your statements are correct. Just because player has no desire to fight doesn’t make them cowards. Some folks are brave enough to walk a different path”
I think this is aimed at me and my previous statement. I don’t have a problem against people that don’t want war. I have a problem with people that sent military actions, took part in the war, then changed their minds. If you started it, finish what you started and don’t just weasel out.
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Can you list all the player in RUM that have attacked tuf players? As you say it is “full of war runners” surely you can mention more than one. If not it is very obvious what you are trying to do accomplish with your comments.
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Cats are pretty cute.
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Lol! Yes, they are.
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“No word yet from PublicRelations on the motive behind the attack.”
I commented to the Illy times just after the article was released.
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so ill give it back “No word yet from Illytimes since they got more info” ;p
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squirrel has 9 cities.. he’s clearly past the point where he should get any newb protection.. the idea that vets in training alliances should be safe forever is stupid
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So if TUF only attack large players in RUM, then it is OK?
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blah blah blah
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squirrel is trying to siege the town again https://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/Map/777/-1671
What did she not understand the first time.
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that you are a an idiot?
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Yes, large players in RUM should be able to be targeted… Or large players in any other alliance in the game. The unspoken rule about training alliances came into being to protect new players who do not know how to play the game yet. It was not intended to provide safe havens for large players for indefinate amounts of time.
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If you are a leader/staff/whatever of a training alliance and you have neither the connections, the army, or the knowledge to avoid getting sieged, then maybe you should join a training alliance yourself to learn how to do these basic things.
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well as someone with accounts in rum and yarr! ,i can say the only attacking i’ve done is with robmc. I can also tell you that most of the members in rum, left yarr! at the start of the war to not fight. Now if the only proof you have of yarr! players attacking tuf members and running to rum is sam odell, then why put the tag on the whole alliance? Why not just hit sam? point is no one is scared of you, and declaring on our sister/training or whatever you want to call it alliance isint going to hurt us. The only ppl running from war is tuf exo’ing out of pawa every week when a siege comes. I have pages and pages of battle reports with us victorious.so there is no need for yarr! to run any ware. its like they say all’s fare in love and war, and i love to war tuf, so i wouldnt expect anything else.
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Then how about your alliance stop running from elgea?
And why don’t you look at those pages and pages of victorious battles and actually look at the ratios your alliance have been getting?
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^L2P
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Red is dead go suck an egg.
I can declare on anyone I want to same as any other alliance does, if anyone has a problem grow a pair and get involved otherwise all your comments and insinuations here as useful as used toilet paper!!!
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So Josh you didnt tell us did you send squirrel running away with your awesome military abilities? or did they take your nuts away and squirreled them up some tree?
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I didn’t use enough forces and then poof the raze was ready.
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the funny thing is im getting 3 to 1 with my cav. also because we keep pressure on you we end up killing your new troops. we haven’t even used half of our troops yet. you know what Mexican dwarf im going to send a cav party to your piss poor towns later today. then you can see what a real kill ratio looks like. aga smell my ball you heavy metal prick. punk rock was always better music anyways
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What have you been doing, attacking some kobolds with your knights? Well done. Bravo. Gold star for you.
And where is your cav? Can’t see any…
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haha you guys fucking crack me up
would you all like me to post my reports and show all of illy how i been creaming all over you guys?
wipe your chin before you return its not really attractive!!!
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I did not agree with Josh’s decision to attack Hell’s siege either the first or second time, just as I didn’t agree with his decision to attack Viperone’s last town in Pawa when he was clearly leaving the region. I confirm those decisions were made without discussing them with anyone else in Yarr! and were only announced after being actioned. I strenuously deny Josh’s allegations that I am a multi-accounter with accounts in more than one side of the conflict. I have left Yarr! and since I have been labelled as a major protagonist in the war, I am open to being targetted by TUF or being able to negotiate on a personal basis, with the caveat that no towns will be exodused from their home location.
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